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		<title>By: Nick (de-cloaked)</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15903</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick (de-cloaked)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Sean. I dig your Star Trek reference.. and secondly, I think the reason that insurance wouldn&#039;t cover that (because of course they wouldn&#039;t care about the ethics.. they didn&#039;t take an oath!) Is because a trans-gender surgery (again.. not something I&#039;m knowledgable about, but I&#039;m guessing here) is a one time thing. If you had your spinal cord severed, they&#039;d at least be in for getting you a wheelchair. Wether you have one or not is probably irrelevant. And I read a different post of yours the other day when I was trying to figure the whole BIID thing out and well.. you mentioned casting yourself and I can relate to that much. I hated having surgery, I hated wearing braces. But when they put the casts on me and the fit snugly and started to warm up and whatnot.. well.. that did feel pretty nice. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Sean. I dig your Star Trek reference.. and secondly, I think the reason that insurance wouldn&#8217;t cover that (because of course they wouldn&#8217;t care about the ethics.. they didn&#8217;t take an oath!) Is because a trans-gender surgery (again.. not something I&#8217;m knowledgable about, but I&#8217;m guessing here) is a one time thing. If you had your spinal cord severed, they&#8217;d at least be in for getting you a wheelchair. Wether you have one or not is probably irrelevant. And I read a different post of yours the other day when I was trying to figure the whole BIID thing out and well.. you mentioned casting yourself and I can relate to that much. I hated having surgery, I hated wearing braces. But when they put the casts on me and the fit snugly and started to warm up and whatnot.. well.. that did feel pretty nice. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15900</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nick,

Thanks for de-cloaking :).  And you&#039;re most welcome.  We try not to blast people who show an interest in understanding.  Of course, it&#039;s hard to understand, sometimes even for those of us who have BIID!!!

As to your question...  It is actually possible for doctors to give surgery that would give paralysis.  It&#039;s a relatively simple procedure that would involve slicing the spinal cord.  And you&#039;re right, surgeons are unwilling to do this procedure, under claims of ethics and hipocratic oath.  

As for insurance, you&#039;re right, I doubt that I&#039;d be funded by insurance, but that&#039;s not something I need.  If there was a surgeon willing to help, at least I would know that if I saved a certain amount, then I could do it.  And if you think that some insurance companies pay for trans-gendered surgeries, it might be possible down the road to have BIID surgery paid for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nick,</p>
<p>Thanks for de-cloaking :).  And you&#8217;re most welcome.  We try not to blast people who show an interest in understanding.  Of course, it&#8217;s hard to understand, sometimes even for those of us who have BIID!!!</p>
<p>As to your question&#8230;  It is actually possible for doctors to give surgery that would give paralysis.  It&#8217;s a relatively simple procedure that would involve slicing the spinal cord.  And you&#8217;re right, surgeons are unwilling to do this procedure, under claims of ethics and hipocratic oath.  </p>
<p>As for insurance, you&#8217;re right, I doubt that I&#8217;d be funded by insurance, but that&#8217;s not something I need.  If there was a surgeon willing to help, at least I would know that if I saved a certain amount, then I could do it.  And if you think that some insurance companies pay for trans-gendered surgeries, it might be possible down the road to have BIID surgery paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick (formerly offended)</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15897</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick (formerly offended)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordo - That was both disturbing and classy. :-)

Thank you all for talking to me reasonably rather than just saying that I wouldn&#039;t understand. I&#039;m closer to understanding now but I get the impression that this is about as close as I can get. I&#039;ve seen all kinds of disabilities in my life but I&#039;ve never really been exposed to BIID before so I wasn&#039;t exactly sure how to feel about it.. if that makes any sense. 

I realize that I kind of thread jacked your original post, Sean. So I&#039;ve got a question relating back to that. If medical science were able to give someone voluntary paralysis, do you think that you could find a doctor who would? Besides that, I don&#039;t think you&#039;d have much luck getting your insurance to pay for that. Just.. a banana for though. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordo &#8211; That was both disturbing and classy. :-)</p>
<p>Thank you all for talking to me reasonably rather than just saying that I wouldn&#8217;t understand. I&#8217;m closer to understanding now but I get the impression that this is about as close as I can get. I&#8217;ve seen all kinds of disabilities in my life but I&#8217;ve never really been exposed to BIID before so I wasn&#8217;t exactly sure how to feel about it.. if that makes any sense. </p>
<p>I realize that I kind of thread jacked your original post, Sean. So I&#8217;ve got a question relating back to that. If medical science were able to give someone voluntary paralysis, do you think that you could find a doctor who would? Besides that, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d have much luck getting your insurance to pay for that. Just.. a banana for though. </p>
<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brice</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15881</link>
		<dc:creator>Brice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who live with BIID know it is a &lt;I&gt;real&lt;/I&gt; impairment.  The constant preoccupation with achieving our body image, the fear of being outed if we are not in a position to have it become known, the depression that can be a by-product of bearing all this burden day in, day out, for as far back as we can remember, let me tell you, that&#039;s all as real as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who live with BIID know it is a <i>real</i> impairment.  The constant preoccupation with achieving our body image, the fear of being outed if we are not in a position to have it become known, the depression that can be a by-product of bearing all this burden day in, day out, for as far back as we can remember, let me tell you, that&#8217;s all as real as it gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15880</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know exactly how you feel in regards to not understanding why someone would want your problems.  I wish every day I wasn&#039;t a coeliac and that my hands didn&#039;t shake.  People tend to give me &quot;the look&quot; when I&#039;m trying to do things like hold a plate or a cup.  If I were to ever learn someone with BIID felt they were meant to have familial tremors or coeliac disease I wouldn&#039;t understand it.  In a way I would feel upset that someone would want to go through the pain that I go through.

Being transabled I don&#039;t understand why I feel I need to be a para.  That&#039;s partly why we all congregate here.  None of us ever feel like we&#039;re going to come to a place where we&#039;d understand why we are who we are, but we feel like we&#039;re getting that much closer to self acceptance talking it over  here.  I&#039;m fortunate enough to have the experience to know that if anyone did ever want my problems they would be just as ashamed and guilty of it as I am needing to be a paraplegic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly how you feel in regards to not understanding why someone would want your problems.  I wish every day I wasn&#8217;t a coeliac and that my hands didn&#8217;t shake.  People tend to give me &#8220;the look&#8221; when I&#8217;m trying to do things like hold a plate or a cup.  If I were to ever learn someone with BIID felt they were meant to have familial tremors or coeliac disease I wouldn&#8217;t understand it.  In a way I would feel upset that someone would want to go through the pain that I go through.</p>
<p>Being transabled I don&#8217;t understand why I feel I need to be a para.  That&#8217;s partly why we all congregate here.  None of us ever feel like we&#8217;re going to come to a place where we&#8217;d understand why we are who we are, but we feel like we&#8217;re getting that much closer to self acceptance talking it over  here.  I&#8217;m fortunate enough to have the experience to know that if anyone did ever want my problems they would be just as ashamed and guilty of it as I am needing to be a paraplegic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brice</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15876</link>
		<dc:creator>Brice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thanks for your willingness to talk &lt;I&gt;to&lt;/I&gt; us instead of &lt;I&gt;about&lt;/I&gt; us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thanks for your willingness to talk <i>to</i> us instead of <i>about</i> us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15875</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need for an apology, your post did not come across anywhere as angry as some of the people we&#039;ve seen over the years ;)

Your question is difficult to answer.  I don&#039;t know *why* I feel better when I am in a wheelchair, despite years of therapy trying to figure it out.  I just know that I do feel better. 

I can tell you that it feels *right* for me to use a wheelchair, that I feel more myself, more at peace, but that doesn&#039;t answer your question of &quot;why&quot;...

Maybe other people can explain it to you, but I don&#039;t know anyone who actually has figured it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need for an apology, your post did not come across anywhere as angry as some of the people we&#8217;ve seen over the years ;)</p>
<p>Your question is difficult to answer.  I don&#8217;t know *why* I feel better when I am in a wheelchair, despite years of therapy trying to figure it out.  I just know that I do feel better. </p>
<p>I can tell you that it feels *right* for me to use a wheelchair, that I feel more myself, more at peace, but that doesn&#8217;t answer your question of &#8220;why&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe other people can explain it to you, but I don&#8217;t know anyone who actually has figured it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Offended?</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15874</link>
		<dc:creator>Offended?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t really understand.. it *is* a hard thing to wrap my mind around. But I respect that. I can&#039;t say I&#039;d wish a disability on anyone but I am glad to have CP because I&#039;ve always known that my body wasn&#039;t my strong suit so it&#039;s allowed me to focus on maintaining my mind. I&#039;m pretty open-minded.. at least I&#039;d like to think so. So I apologize if my original post came off as angry. So I guess my question would be.. why does it make you feel better to be in a wheelchair? And as for people talking down to the disabled.. I get a kick out of that because as soon as I start talking, I can see it in peoples eyes that they underestmated me and that&#039;s always amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t really understand.. it *is* a hard thing to wrap my mind around. But I respect that. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;d wish a disability on anyone but I am glad to have CP because I&#8217;ve always known that my body wasn&#8217;t my strong suit so it&#8217;s allowed me to focus on maintaining my mind. I&#8217;m pretty open-minded.. at least I&#8217;d like to think so. So I apologize if my original post came off as angry. So I guess my question would be.. why does it make you feel better to be in a wheelchair? And as for people talking down to the disabled.. I get a kick out of that because as soon as I start talking, I can see it in peoples eyes that they underestmated me and that&#8217;s always amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15867</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kind of offended:  a friend of mine (who wasn&#039;t a friend at the time) once told me in anger &quot;In this case imitation is the sincerest form of mockery&quot;.  I was taken very aback by that because mockery is the FARTHEST thing from our minds.  What Sean has said is pretty much basically my experience too. My friend who originally accused us of mockery, after long discussion trying to understand, eventually said: &quot;I have had to rearrangement my thoughts and feelings after reading this thread.  I apologize for my original post.  People with these disorders have my respect and sympathy and I truly wish you all a means, mentally, to have your pain relieved. Please forgive the ignorance I expressed before.&quot;  You can actually read that thread &lt;a href=&quot;http://paradevo.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=619&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s an interesting discussing between people on both sides of the fence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kind of offended:  a friend of mine (who wasn&#8217;t a friend at the time) once told me in anger &#8220;In this case imitation is the sincerest form of mockery&#8221;.  I was taken very aback by that because mockery is the FARTHEST thing from our minds.  What Sean has said is pretty much basically my experience too. My friend who originally accused us of mockery, after long discussion trying to understand, eventually said: &#8220;I have had to rearrangement my thoughts and feelings after reading this thread.  I apologize for my original post.  People with these disorders have my respect and sympathy and I truly wish you all a means, mentally, to have your pain relieved. Please forgive the ignorance I expressed before.&#8221;  You can actually read that thread <a href="http://paradevo.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=619&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  It&#8217;s an interesting discussing between people on both sides of the fence.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello &quot;Kind Of Offended&quot;,

I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re offended.  I responded to you by email, but as you&#039;ve posted your email in a comment as well, I have copy/pasted my response here as well for the benefit of others.
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Thank you for making the effort of contacting me to try and understand.  It most certainly is a puzzling condition that is difficult to understand for people who do not have it.

I want to assure you that no one with BIID is mocking people with disabilities.  It is far from making a joke of it all.

People who have BIID are not in it for the &quot;glory&quot;.  We aren&#039;t needing attention.  We don&#039;t want to get sympathy.  And we certainly aren&#039;t naive enough to think that having a disability is just fun and games.

The fact is, we have not chosen to have these feelings.  I don&#039;t know
anyone who would chose to be ostracised by society, verbally assaulted, shunned.  I don&#039;t know anyone who would actually pick to have BIID and endure the constant emotional anguish that we do.  We no more chose to feel the way we do that gay people have chosen their sexual preference.  It is part of who we are, from the youngest age.

It started when I was 3 or 4 for me.  Long before I knew about wheelchairs,  paraplegia, spinal cord injuries, etc.  I just knew that my legs needed NOT to work.  I knew, in the deepest part of myself that my &quot;normal and functioning&quot; body was not the body I should have had.  I guess a comparison you might understand would be to compare BIID to GID, Gender Identity Disorder.  For many of us who have BIID, the experience is similar to transsexuals, except that instead of needing to be in a body of a different gender, we need to have a physical impairment.

My use of the wheelchair is not a joke to me.  It is not a way to mock people who use wheelchairs because of a physical impairment.  For me, it is therapy.  It is a tool that allows me to be functional in my day-to-day life.  Just like a wheelchair is a tool for a paraplegic to move around, and a cane is a tool for other people to allow them balance, the wheelchair gives me enough peace of mind that I can actually function and go through life.

You know, I am very familiar with the experience of having a disability in public.  I know the stares.  I know the little fixed smiles.  I know the people yelling at me, or speaking slowly, because they think I&#039;m stupid, just because I&#039;m in a wheelchair.  I know having to wait for an accessible stall at the mall while a couple teenagers are having a quickie in it.  I know all that and more.  And it&#039;s not about that.  It&#039;s not about other people&#039;s reaction to me.

It&#039;s about me being myself.

I hope that explains it a bit better for you.  It is a  difficult topic to wrap your head around, and even myself sometimes have a bit of problem &quot;getting it&quot;.  Please feel free to ask me any  question you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8220;Kind Of Offended&#8221;,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re offended.  I responded to you by email, but as you&#8217;ve posted your email in a comment as well, I have copy/pasted my response here as well for the benefit of others.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Thank you for making the effort of contacting me to try and understand.  It most certainly is a puzzling condition that is difficult to understand for people who do not have it.</p>
<p>I want to assure you that no one with BIID is mocking people with disabilities.  It is far from making a joke of it all.</p>
<p>People who have BIID are not in it for the &#8220;glory&#8221;.  We aren&#8217;t needing attention.  We don&#8217;t want to get sympathy.  And we certainly aren&#8217;t naive enough to think that having a disability is just fun and games.</p>
<p>The fact is, we have not chosen to have these feelings.  I don&#8217;t know<br />
anyone who would chose to be ostracised by society, verbally assaulted, shunned.  I don&#8217;t know anyone who would actually pick to have BIID and endure the constant emotional anguish that we do.  We no more chose to feel the way we do that gay people have chosen their sexual preference.  It is part of who we are, from the youngest age.</p>
<p>It started when I was 3 or 4 for me.  Long before I knew about wheelchairs,  paraplegia, spinal cord injuries, etc.  I just knew that my legs needed NOT to work.  I knew, in the deepest part of myself that my &#8220;normal and functioning&#8221; body was not the body I should have had.  I guess a comparison you might understand would be to compare BIID to GID, Gender Identity Disorder.  For many of us who have BIID, the experience is similar to transsexuals, except that instead of needing to be in a body of a different gender, we need to have a physical impairment.</p>
<p>My use of the wheelchair is not a joke to me.  It is not a way to mock people who use wheelchairs because of a physical impairment.  For me, it is therapy.  It is a tool that allows me to be functional in my day-to-day life.  Just like a wheelchair is a tool for a paraplegic to move around, and a cane is a tool for other people to allow them balance, the wheelchair gives me enough peace of mind that I can actually function and go through life.</p>
<p>You know, I am very familiar with the experience of having a disability in public.  I know the stares.  I know the little fixed smiles.  I know the people yelling at me, or speaking slowly, because they think I&#8217;m stupid, just because I&#8217;m in a wheelchair.  I know having to wait for an accessible stall at the mall while a couple teenagers are having a quickie in it.  I know all that and more.  And it&#8217;s not about that.  It&#8217;s not about other people&#8217;s reaction to me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about me being myself.</p>
<p>I hope that explains it a bit better for you.  It is a  difficult topic to wrap your head around, and even myself sometimes have a bit of problem &#8220;getting it&#8221;.  Please feel free to ask me any  question you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Kind Of Offended</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15864</link>
		<dc:creator>Kind Of Offended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand. I realize what BIID is and all that but here&#039;s what bothers me. I found this website after looking up &quot;Quid Pro Quo&quot; on Wikipedia and I wasn&#039;t really offended until someone mentioned having a wheelchair because of Cerebral Palsy. I&#039;ve been handicapped for 25 years. My entire life. I don&#039;t see where anyone can say &quot;I want to be disabled, so I&#039;m going to use a wheelchair.&quot; Is that any better than wanting to be black and walking around in public in Blackface? I&#039;m not in a wheelchair, I&#039;ve been blessed enough to be able to walk. But I get stared at. I get treated differently. I almost feel like I&#039;m being mocked by your community. Being disabled isn&#039;t all sympathy cards and sunshine. I guess *that&#039;s* the irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand. I realize what BIID is and all that but here&#8217;s what bothers me. I found this website after looking up &#8220;Quid Pro Quo&#8221; on Wikipedia and I wasn&#8217;t really offended until someone mentioned having a wheelchair because of Cerebral Palsy. I&#8217;ve been handicapped for 25 years. My entire life. I don&#8217;t see where anyone can say &#8220;I want to be disabled, so I&#8217;m going to use a wheelchair.&#8221; Is that any better than wanting to be black and walking around in public in Blackface? I&#8217;m not in a wheelchair, I&#8217;ve been blessed enough to be able to walk. But I get stared at. I get treated differently. I almost feel like I&#8217;m being mocked by your community. Being disabled isn&#8217;t all sympathy cards and sunshine. I guess *that&#8217;s* the irony.</p>
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		<title>By: inVivo</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15786</link>
		<dc:creator>inVivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that was the situation, you could always refuse the cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that was the situation, you could always refuse the cure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15785</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we&#039;re talking about SCI being curable, not BIID.

You&#039;d still be using the chair due to BIID, but the treatment for BIID at that point would be surgically assisted disability, in your case limited paralysis. 

I was just floating around the idea (and I think Claire was, too) that if SCI is seen as easily curable, it won&#039;t be thought of as such a drastic measure by surgeons, who would then see it as a more legitimate treatment method for BIID to purposely injure a person. The ability to &#039;cancel&#039; the treatment, makes a lot of doctors a lot more comfortable about things. It&#039;s like a medication. A doctor would be more reluctant to give the medication if there was a large chance that a negative (at least to them) permanent effect could occur that they can&#039;t reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we&#8217;re talking about SCI being curable, not BIID.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d still be using the chair due to BIID, but the treatment for BIID at that point would be surgically assisted disability, in your case limited paralysis. </p>
<p>I was just floating around the idea (and I think Claire was, too) that if SCI is seen as easily curable, it won&#8217;t be thought of as such a drastic measure by surgeons, who would then see it as a more legitimate treatment method for BIID to purposely injure a person. The ability to &#8216;cancel&#8217; the treatment, makes a lot of doctors a lot more comfortable about things. It&#8217;s like a medication. A doctor would be more reluctant to give the medication if there was a large chance that a negative (at least to them) permanent effect could occur that they can&#8217;t reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but if it&#039;s curable, then, there would be no explanation as to why I remain in the chair, eh?  It would be as good as saying &quot;I want to be in this chair&quot;, which would raise its own set of problems, bit like we have problems now explaining why we need the chair for no physical impairment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but if it&#8217;s curable, then, there would be no explanation as to why I remain in the chair, eh?  It would be as good as saying &#8220;I want to be in this chair&#8221;, which would raise its own set of problems, bit like we have problems now explaining why we need the chair for no physical impairment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15778</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Claire makes an interesting point (as do you in this post), and I have thought similarly.

There may come a time, when BIID in the form of needing paralysis may become easier to accept to many, when a SCI can be readily cured. It will be viewed as more commutable once there is a cure to reverse the damage - people could come to view SCI not much differently then getting a cut on the elbow, or something of that nature, in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Claire makes an interesting point (as do you in this post), and I have thought similarly.</p>
<p>There may come a time, when BIID in the form of needing paralysis may become easier to accept to many, when a SCI can be readily cured. It will be viewed as more commutable once there is a cure to reverse the damage &#8211; people could come to view SCI not much differently then getting a cut on the elbow, or something of that nature, in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://transabled.org/thoughts/sean-thoughts/ohhh-the-irony.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15777</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe when spinal cord injury isn&#039;t so final, they&#039;ll be more likely to give it to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe when spinal cord injury isn&#8217;t so final, they&#8217;ll be more likely to give it to you!</p>
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