Comments on: Daydreams, and femoral nerve questioning http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm Talking about Body Integrity Identity Disorder - Just another disability! Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:49:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta2 hourly 1 By: Jay http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3187 Jay Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:20:27 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3187 Oh, that´s rather obvious. Whenever a nerve is touched like that, it makes a kinda unpleasant tingling, in this case down along the thigh. I expect that pushing the cannula into the nerve would be outright painful, but I never tried that. Oh, that´s rather obvious. Whenever a nerve is touched like that, it makes a kinda unpleasant tingling, in this case down along the thigh. I expect that pushing the cannula into the nerve would be outright painful, but I never tried that.

]]> By: Claire http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3113 Claire Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:37:43 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3113 Whoops, no, I wasn't advocating home surgery either, I had something entirely different in mind. Sorry, that was totally unclear. (And no, if you don't already know what I'm talking about, don't ask). Jay, how did you know that you had actually located the femoral nerve? Pain? Whoops, no, I wasn’t advocating home surgery either, I had something entirely different in mind. Sorry, that was totally unclear. (And no, if you don’t already know what I’m talking about, don’t ask).

Jay, how did you know that you had actually located the femoral nerve? Pain?

]]> By: Sean http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3111 Sean Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:33:11 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3111 Hello Jay, Thank you for coming out of the shadows and commenting on this post. I should point out that I do NOT recommend anyone attempt DYI surgery. Never have, and never will. I've often wondered if a doctor would be willing to do either an epidural or a femoral nerve block, but there again, the problem lays with finding a willing surgeon/anesthetist. Might be easier to find the proverbial needle in the proverbial haystack... Hello Jay, Thank you for coming out of the shadows and commenting on this post.

I should point out that I do NOT recommend anyone attempt DYI surgery. Never have, and never will.

I’ve often wondered if a doctor would be willing to do either an epidural or a femoral nerve block, but there again, the problem lays with finding a willing surgeon/anesthetist. Might be easier to find the proverbial needle in the proverbial haystack…

]]> By: Jay http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3110 Jay Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:37:15 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3110 I have only been lurking here before, but now that you bring up my favorite topic of amateur home surgery, I have to comment. A basic principle of "real" surgery is that the surgeon has to have a DEEP understanding of the area to operate on. That may explain why surgeons are unwilling to work on unfamiliar areas. It takes just a little bit of study , like Gray´s anatomy on the net, to find out about a structure called the Femoral sheath. That is a hose-like tube bundling together the Femoral nerve, vein, and artery. Both those vessels are finger-thick. Cutting blindly in that area at home could easily cause some very unwanted effects. But you could ask your surgeon friends if they could perform a Femoral block on you, using a local anestetic (preferably long-acting) to give you an idea what a loss of femoral function is like. I think that is fairly commonly done for knee surgery. Maybe not exactly what you want, but maybe something you can actually have? Btw, the Femoral nerve running "close to the skin" was some 4 cm deep when I once located it on myself in a sitting position. Used the better part of a 50mm cannula to poke it, just for practice. I have only been lurking here before, but now that you bring up my favorite topic of amateur home surgery, I have to comment. A basic principle of “real” surgery is that the surgeon has to have a DEEP understanding of the area to operate on. That may explain why surgeons are unwilling to work on unfamiliar areas. It takes just a little bit of study , like Gray´s anatomy on the net, to find out about a structure called the Femoral sheath. That is a hose-like tube bundling together the Femoral nerve, vein, and artery.
Both those vessels are finger-thick.
Cutting blindly in that area at home could easily cause some very unwanted effects.
But you could ask your surgeon friends if they could perform a Femoral block on you, using a local anestetic (preferably long-acting) to give you an idea what a loss of femoral function is like. I think that is fairly commonly done for knee surgery. Maybe not exactly what you want, but maybe something you can actually have?

Btw, the Femoral nerve running “close to the skin” was some 4 cm deep when I once located it on myself in a sitting position. Used the better part of a 50mm cannula to poke it, just for practice.

]]> By: Sean http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3108 Sean Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:16:19 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3108 Welcome back Darci, long time no hear. :) I'm glad to see you. Welcome back Darci, long time no hear. :) I’m glad to see you.

]]> By: Darci http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3106 Darci Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:23:57 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3106 My surgery to relieve some back pain/nerve issues included cutting small nerves leading to the femoral nerve and to alleviate some of the sciatic pain I was constantly having. The result, some numbness but not the constant nerve pain I had, a significant drop foot on my right side, and atrophy along the inside of my thigh and calf. I can get away with using a chair when I want, I do when needing long distances or long days. Most days I will use a cane or forearm crutch. My surgery to relieve some back pain/nerve issues included cutting small nerves leading to the femoral nerve and to alleviate some of the sciatic pain I was constantly having. The result, some numbness but not the constant nerve pain I had, a significant drop foot on my right side, and atrophy along the inside of my thigh and calf. I can get away with using a chair when I want, I do when needing long distances or long days. Most days I will use a cane or forearm crutch.

]]> By: Claire http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3095 Claire Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:50:47 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3095 And wouldn't you have to hit the sciatic as well to parallyze the whole leg? That one is buried pretty deep, no way to get to it yourself. And wouldn’t you have to hit the sciatic as well to parallyze the whole leg? That one is buried pretty deep, no way to get to it yourself.

]]> By: Claire http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm/comment-page-1#comment-3093 Claire Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:32:30 +0000 http://transabled.org/thoughts/daydreams-and-femoral-nerve-questioning.htm#comment-3093 Do it!! Send out that batch of letters. It's worth another try. Find a surgeon, and you'll figure out the money. If you don't try, you'll never know. And if they refuse...FWIW, at that junction, the femoral nerve is very close to the skin. If you are very careful, it can't be any more difficult or dangerous or painful than the methods that the successful amp wannabes have used, can it? Do it!! Send out that batch of letters. It’s worth another try. Find a surgeon, and you’ll figure out the money. If you don’t try, you’ll never know.

And if they refuse…FWIW, at that junction, the femoral nerve is very close to the skin. If you are very careful, it can’t be any more difficult or dangerous or painful than the methods that the successful amp wannabes have used, can it?

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